Q. I am looking for a decent gaming motherboard. When I say decent, I prefer 150 dollars or less. I am a moderate gamer and enjoy World of Warcraft and GTA IV (Have never been able to run this game fully on my computer, so I want something that can handle it well!) I would rather get something a little older and cheaper but still pretty good since all the brand new stuff will be expensive and lose it's flair in about year anyway. So, can you suggest some reliable brands that'll be able to run my games? Thanks!
A. Your money might be better spent on a graphics card upgrade..
If you got a good motherboard but you are still using your old crappy graphics card, your games will still run like crap.
So check your computer.. If you have a PCIExpress 16x slot, the graphics card will be the most cost-effective upgrade in your situation.
If you got a good motherboard but you are still using your old crappy graphics card, your games will still run like crap.
So check your computer.. If you have a PCIExpress 16x slot, the graphics card will be the most cost-effective upgrade in your situation.
Computer for gaming.?
Q. I have about 1200$. What type of computer can I get that will run new games like BIOSHOCK or Orange Box smoothly? I know I want at least 3 gigs of ram, or else enough money to spare to upgrade it.
Thanks
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A. I think $1200 is not enough. I recommend you build your own.
High End Gaming Computer
$75 Case: ATX Mid Tower
$110 Power supply 650 watt or larger, SLI certified a plus
$180 Motherboard ATX; LGA 775 ; 2 PCI express x16 slots
$280 Core 2 Quad Q6600
$140 4 GB Dual Channel 800Mhz RAM
$249 Nvidia 8800GTS (1 ea,)
$35 CD/DVD 20x Burner
$120 500 GB SATA II Hard Drive
$180 Vista Ultimate OEM
=================
$1369 USD Prices per new egg.com
Substitute Core 2 Duo E6550 2333 MHz $157 for Core 2 Quad Q6600 $280
$280-$157 =$123
$1369-$123 = $1246
Substitute 8600GTS for 8800GTS
$270-$133= $137
$1246 - $137 = $1109
Optional:
Prices per new egg.com
$45 Logitech MX518 or Logitech G5
$58 Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
$270 SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms
Widescreen LCD Monitor
$90 Logitech THX Z-5300e 280 Watts RMS 5.1 Speaker
http://www.google.com/products?q=Logitech+THX+Z-5300e&scoring=p
======================
My opinion for a new computer processor to run Vista:
For non gaming a Rendering Time of 1:59 or less
For gaming a Rendering Time of 1:33 or less (1.20 or less preferred)
Refer to:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html
===============================
Rendering time, lower number is faster per
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html
Core 2 Duo E4300 1800 MHz $129.99
Rendering time = 1:54
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 6000+ $159.99
Rendering time = 1:27
Core 2 Duo E6550 2333 MHz $157.39
Rendering time = 1:27
Core 2 Duo E6750 2666 MHz $175.39
Rendering time = 1:17
Core 2 Duo E6850 3000 MHz $279.99
Rendering time = 1:09
Core 2 Quad Q6600 $279.99
Rendering time = 0:47
Core 2 Extreme QX6850 $1034.99
Rendering time = 0:39
Prices per newegg.com
I recommend you use a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad CPU
========================
Motherboard
ATX (not ATX micro)
775 socket will take Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, Core2 Extreme
Maximum RAM 8GB or more
1000 MHz or faster FSB
2PCI express X16 slots
(careful some cheap ones are only X8 internally)
8 channel audio
5 star rating and at least 10 reviews.
this leaves 3 choices
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280+1070509908+1073607588+1075707618+1074007596&Configurator=&Subcategory=280&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
======================
My opinion for a new video card:
For playing the latest advanced games a FRAPS (frames per second) of 50 or higher (80 or higher ideal)
For moderate games a FRAPS of 30 or more.
For simple games or no games a FRAPS of 18 or more
Refer to:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html
===============================
FRAPS (frames per second); higher is better per
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html
NVIDIA 8600GTS ($133) FRAPS= 53.6
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=256-P2-N761-AR&pwindow=specs&family=23
400 Watt Minimum; 22 Amps minimum @ 12V rail
ATI Radeon HD 2900 PRO($280) FRAPS= 88.1 estimated
http://download.hightech.com.hk/manual/HD2900/radeon_hd2900_users_guide_2nded_137-41328-20.pdf
A 550 Watt or better power supply with two 2�3-pin PCIe� power connectors.
NVIDIA 8800GTS ($269) FRAPS=102.2
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=640-P2-N825-AR&family=23
400 Watt Minimum; 26 Amps minimum @ 12V rail .
ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT ($375) FRAPS = 108.6
http://download.hightech.com.hk/manual/HD2900/radeon_hd2900_users_guide_2nded_137-41328-20.pdf
A 550 Watt or better power supply with two 2�3-pin PCIe� power connectors.
NVIDIA 8800Ultra ($549) FRAPS=116.9
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=768-P2-N888-AR&family=23
500 Watt Minimum; 34 Amps minimum @ 12V rail .
Two available 6-pin Molex hard drive power dongles.
All support DirectX 10
Prices per
http://www.newegg.com
=============
Graphics card gaming performance charts:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=399&type=expert&pid=1
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1595&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=2
Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
=================
CPU gaming performance charts:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html
CPU Benchmarks
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/index.php
==================
Higher performance video cards require more current from the 12 volt leg of the power supply that supplies the video card. This may require changing to a more powerful power supply. Determine the amps at 12 Volts the video card recommends and compare it to your existing power supply.
How to Buy a Power Supply
http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Power-Supply
Nvidia SLI Certified Power Supplies
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html
EVGA Approved Power Supplies
http://www.evga.com/articles/286.asp
ATI Radeon Crossfire Certified Power Supplies
http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/buildyourown2.html
Diamond Video Cards Certified Power Supplies
http://www.diamondmm.com/certified.php
--------------------------------------
RAM
Changing from 800 MHz Dual Channel RAM to 1244 MHz Dual Channel Ram only increased performance 2%.
A 50+% increase in RAM speed only increased performance 2%.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/15/hardcore_ddr2_ram_by_corsair/page16.html
High End Gaming Computer
$75 Case: ATX Mid Tower
$110 Power supply 650 watt or larger, SLI certified a plus
$180 Motherboard ATX; LGA 775 ; 2 PCI express x16 slots
$280 Core 2 Quad Q6600
$140 4 GB Dual Channel 800Mhz RAM
$249 Nvidia 8800GTS (1 ea,)
$35 CD/DVD 20x Burner
$120 500 GB SATA II Hard Drive
$180 Vista Ultimate OEM
=================
$1369 USD Prices per new egg.com
Substitute Core 2 Duo E6550 2333 MHz $157 for Core 2 Quad Q6600 $280
$280-$157 =$123
$1369-$123 = $1246
Substitute 8600GTS for 8800GTS
$270-$133= $137
$1246 - $137 = $1109
Optional:
Prices per new egg.com
$45 Logitech MX518 or Logitech G5
$58 Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
$270 SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms
Widescreen LCD Monitor
$90 Logitech THX Z-5300e 280 Watts RMS 5.1 Speaker
http://www.google.com/products?q=Logitech+THX+Z-5300e&scoring=p
======================
My opinion for a new computer processor to run Vista:
For non gaming a Rendering Time of 1:59 or less
For gaming a Rendering Time of 1:33 or less (1.20 or less preferred)
Refer to:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html
===============================
Rendering time, lower number is faster per
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html
Core 2 Duo E4300 1800 MHz $129.99
Rendering time = 1:54
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 6000+ $159.99
Rendering time = 1:27
Core 2 Duo E6550 2333 MHz $157.39
Rendering time = 1:27
Core 2 Duo E6750 2666 MHz $175.39
Rendering time = 1:17
Core 2 Duo E6850 3000 MHz $279.99
Rendering time = 1:09
Core 2 Quad Q6600 $279.99
Rendering time = 0:47
Core 2 Extreme QX6850 $1034.99
Rendering time = 0:39
Prices per newegg.com
I recommend you use a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad CPU
========================
Motherboard
ATX (not ATX micro)
775 socket will take Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, Core2 Extreme
Maximum RAM 8GB or more
1000 MHz or faster FSB
2PCI express X16 slots
(careful some cheap ones are only X8 internally)
8 channel audio
5 star rating and at least 10 reviews.
this leaves 3 choices
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280+1070509908+1073607588+1075707618+1074007596&Configurator=&Subcategory=280&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
======================
My opinion for a new video card:
For playing the latest advanced games a FRAPS (frames per second) of 50 or higher (80 or higher ideal)
For moderate games a FRAPS of 30 or more.
For simple games or no games a FRAPS of 18 or more
Refer to:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html
===============================
FRAPS (frames per second); higher is better per
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html
NVIDIA 8600GTS ($133) FRAPS= 53.6
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=256-P2-N761-AR&pwindow=specs&family=23
400 Watt Minimum; 22 Amps minimum @ 12V rail
ATI Radeon HD 2900 PRO($280) FRAPS= 88.1 estimated
http://download.hightech.com.hk/manual/HD2900/radeon_hd2900_users_guide_2nded_137-41328-20.pdf
A 550 Watt or better power supply with two 2�3-pin PCIe� power connectors.
NVIDIA 8800GTS ($269) FRAPS=102.2
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=640-P2-N825-AR&family=23
400 Watt Minimum; 26 Amps minimum @ 12V rail .
ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT ($375) FRAPS = 108.6
http://download.hightech.com.hk/manual/HD2900/radeon_hd2900_users_guide_2nded_137-41328-20.pdf
A 550 Watt or better power supply with two 2�3-pin PCIe� power connectors.
NVIDIA 8800Ultra ($549) FRAPS=116.9
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=768-P2-N888-AR&family=23
500 Watt Minimum; 34 Amps minimum @ 12V rail .
Two available 6-pin Molex hard drive power dongles.
All support DirectX 10
Prices per
http://www.newegg.com
=============
Graphics card gaming performance charts:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=399&type=expert&pid=1
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1595&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=2
Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
=================
CPU gaming performance charts:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html
CPU Benchmarks
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/index.php
==================
Higher performance video cards require more current from the 12 volt leg of the power supply that supplies the video card. This may require changing to a more powerful power supply. Determine the amps at 12 Volts the video card recommends and compare it to your existing power supply.
How to Buy a Power Supply
http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Power-Supply
Nvidia SLI Certified Power Supplies
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html
EVGA Approved Power Supplies
http://www.evga.com/articles/286.asp
ATI Radeon Crossfire Certified Power Supplies
http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/buildyourown2.html
Diamond Video Cards Certified Power Supplies
http://www.diamondmm.com/certified.php
--------------------------------------
RAM
Changing from 800 MHz Dual Channel RAM to 1244 MHz Dual Channel Ram only increased performance 2%.
A 50+% increase in RAM speed only increased performance 2%.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/15/hardcore_ddr2_ram_by_corsair/page16.html
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