Q. Title says it all, I have a preference for quite a bit of ram, I would like to go with AMD just because its cheaper to build that way and I've heard easier overclocking. ATI GPU, Either 1 monitor with 1080p or two decent sized monitors, and 500gb - 1tb of harddrive space. =) you could go against these preferences if you can build a nice computer. I also wouldn't mind going with a laptop (for convenience since I just became a college student) with the laptop i5's are out just because I don't want a cpu with a build in GPU as it slows down the CPU. Thanks everyone
I've already pieced together a computer on newegg.com, i just want to see if someone not using my build as a started could give me some good ideas
the 2nd post has made me realize, maybe i need to ask you to post a SPECIFIC BUILD. Either give me a link or tell me the name of everything and keep in under $1000
I've already pieced together a computer on newegg.com, i just want to see if someone not using my build as a started could give me some good ideas
the 2nd post has made me realize, maybe i need to ask you to post a SPECIFIC BUILD. Either give me a link or tell me the name of everything and keep in under $1000
A. Personally, I have never been into the whole OC thing. Okay okay so my last video card was a 9800GTX+ where the + means it was overclocked and worked from the manufacturer.
Anyway, looking at that last statement, you can see I prefer the Intel, nVidia combo instead of AMD/ATi. Again that is only personal preference. Some will argue you just HAVE to go Intel or HAVE to go AMD. Meh. Look at specs. Figure minimum 3.0GHz processor, 8GB RAM and 512MB vid card--of course 1GB is much better. But, your choice of video card is dependent upon gaming not graphic design. If you're only going to be making pictures and using programs that do that, you don't need a gaming card. Manipulating images is far easier for a card than rendering 3D objects that are found in games. In fact, if you're doing a lot of image manipulation and video editing, etc the Mac is better than any but the very expensive PC setups out there.
My personal system has a nice 24" HD monitor, but a family member's office systems are all 2 19" [square] monitor setups. Both have their advantages depending upon how you want to use them. If you're gaming at all I would stick with one nice large monitor instead of a dual setup. When doing the other stuff besides gaming you can just open up windows and throw them around where you need them.
I am lucky that I spend money on my computer like some guys spend money on their cars. I have a core i7, 16GB, nVidia GTX275 setup. [Of course a CD/DVD burner and some older 150GB SATA drives inside too... and a regualr mouse and keyboard.] There isn't a game out there that doesn't auto detect and go right to max settings on everything. I have considered going SLI, but I made a rather poor choice of mobo and the two PCIe slots are right next to each other. I have to get one where there's room in between them before I go that route. I just can't see how they stay cool with one sucking in the heat from the other.
Newegg is a good choice. They're usually cheaper than tigerdirect. However, tigerdirect usually does a better job of having items in stock.
Anyway, looking at that last statement, you can see I prefer the Intel, nVidia combo instead of AMD/ATi. Again that is only personal preference. Some will argue you just HAVE to go Intel or HAVE to go AMD. Meh. Look at specs. Figure minimum 3.0GHz processor, 8GB RAM and 512MB vid card--of course 1GB is much better. But, your choice of video card is dependent upon gaming not graphic design. If you're only going to be making pictures and using programs that do that, you don't need a gaming card. Manipulating images is far easier for a card than rendering 3D objects that are found in games. In fact, if you're doing a lot of image manipulation and video editing, etc the Mac is better than any but the very expensive PC setups out there.
My personal system has a nice 24" HD monitor, but a family member's office systems are all 2 19" [square] monitor setups. Both have their advantages depending upon how you want to use them. If you're gaming at all I would stick with one nice large monitor instead of a dual setup. When doing the other stuff besides gaming you can just open up windows and throw them around where you need them.
I am lucky that I spend money on my computer like some guys spend money on their cars. I have a core i7, 16GB, nVidia GTX275 setup. [Of course a CD/DVD burner and some older 150GB SATA drives inside too... and a regualr mouse and keyboard.] There isn't a game out there that doesn't auto detect and go right to max settings on everything. I have considered going SLI, but I made a rather poor choice of mobo and the two PCIe slots are right next to each other. I have to get one where there's room in between them before I go that route. I just can't see how they stay cool with one sucking in the heat from the other.
Newegg is a good choice. They're usually cheaper than tigerdirect. However, tigerdirect usually does a better job of having items in stock.
what computer should i buy? i will mainly be using it for gaming and graphic design.?
Q. I dont want to spend over $2,000. I'm leaning toward the hp elite m9360 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8894814&productCategoryId=abcat0501002&type=product&tab=2&id=1211587730389#productdetail)
I am also looking at the velocity micro promajix w/the 3.14ghz core 2 duo processor. The HP has 8gigs of RAM though and its in no need of upgrading so far w/a 9800gt card in it. What do u guys think? is the HP Elite a good deal?
o and i DO NOT want a Mac. They blow.
I am also looking at the velocity micro promajix w/the 3.14ghz core 2 duo processor. The HP has 8gigs of RAM though and its in no need of upgrading so far w/a 9800gt card in it. What do u guys think? is the HP Elite a good deal?
o and i DO NOT want a Mac. They blow.
A. To build a gaming pc, you have to know how to balance your components for best performance. If budget is no concern, then you're lucky and the job is easy. For the rest of us, it is about knowing which parts of the computer are most stressed during gaming, and giving budget priority to those parts. The items to focus on, in order of importance, are:
1) Video card
2) Memory
3) CPU
http://www.pugetsystems.com/gaming.php
For Vista, look at the MS requirements�and double it at least and make sure it's certified. Triple if you can afford�then Vista should rock your socks. If you learn how to use it, Vista features and technology blows XP away�when it works. ;) You want it to last so get 64-bit Vista Home Premium or Ultimate. It�s mega-fast with 64-bit apps as well as lets you upgrade > 4GB TOTAL RAM (system RAM + graphics card + other devices). 64-bit also requires �MS approved� (a.k.a. digitally signed) drivers so this �might� help with hardware compatibility, etc. This is MS�s way of trying to get everyone to �move on� if they are able to.
But if you have old programs, they might not work (esp. with 64-bit version). Google �Vista compatibility list�. Knowing a bit about computers helps getting the old problematic ones to work (Internet has a lot of solutions that smart people share).
Ultimate is the best but if you don�t think you need anything that fancy, Home Premium is good too. Get a good video card if you want Aero graphics (at least 256MB 128-bit in the newer cards)� better if you can afford. Vista technology distributes more graphics processing to the video card and relieves the CPU for other things. Therefore, a good video card will make Vista work better.
Vista uses extra RAM to store commonly used files in a new activity known as �disk caching�. The computer uses artificial intelligence to determine which files will be used most and copies it to RAM (where it is much faster than accessing your hard disk). This includes components of the programs you use on a regular basis. When you need more RAM for programs you launch, etc. the computer purges the �least likely used� files from RAM to make room for the new program. That�s why if you look at the performance monitor, Vista always has near zero �free� RAM. So in theory, the more RAM (for disk cache) you have, the faster your computer will operate. This can also be augmented (to a lesser effect) with a flash drive/card with a technology called ReadyBoost. Just stick it in and select �Speed up my system� and leave it there.
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2917&p=6
Vista Home Premium and Ultimate has Windows Media Center, where with a TV card/USB adapter (if not integrated) of the type that fits your TV/Cable, acts similar to TiVo. You can play your videos, schedule recordings, etc. You can get a wireless keyboard / mouse or gyro-mouse and it will be sort of like remote control. If you do this, get a big Hard Disk.
MS Office productivity software works best on Windows. The Mac version is really nerfed and doesn�t have new features like Office Ribbon interface, Mini Toolbars, and Live Preview.
Vista supports touch-screens and voice recognition if you�re into note-taking and dictation. A good program to use with this is OneNote, which is included in some Office editions.
Deals of America and Tech Bargains catch good deals on HP and Dell�s and sometimes you can get like $500 off! XPBargains has deals and coupons on Tablet PC�s!
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Unless you are an artist, most Universities (and programs) as well as the rest of the world use Windows. WinMacs are popular but for the price, Macs don�t run Windows as well as other brands, but sometimes it doesn't really matter that much to most users. In addition some just want it for fashion and like them to match their iPods.
Here are some statistics to put it into perspective.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/
Note that these �internet traffic statistics� actually miss a lot of Windows PC usage because many are used for work and do not surf the internet much (if at all). Thus the Windows PC�s out there may be even MORE than the representation on the charts!
Macs are durable because many have an accelerometer in there that can "increase the chance" of saving your hard drive when you drop it. Like those used in airbags. The power cord is also magnetically attached so it reduces the chance that you yank it off the table.
OSXMacs can exclusively install Final Cut Pro (which is good for media work). Adobe Creative Suite is also good and available for Windows but works better on OSX. The Windows version actually looks like an OSX port. Many OSX users are artists historically. Emotion workers are generally not as good with computers as logic workers so OSX is good for them. Because OSX is less complicated and harder to mess up, a lot of computer newbies also use Macs and that�s why you see a lot of �Get a Mac! They are so awesome!� without any technical explanation to back up that opinion. ;)
Mac Pros:
OSX stability
OSX is easy to use
Dual-bootable to Windows
More durable than many brands
Trendy
Mac Cons:
Not as much peripheral support
Not as much software support
Windows doesn�t run as well
Expensive
Minority
Windows PC Pros:
More customizable
More choices
More styles
Cheap hardware
Vista has best gaming capability (Direct3D 10)
Windows PC Cons:
Less stable (unless you are an IT pro)
Many are relatively not as fashionable
Not as user-friendly
Some extra features in Windows requires advanced knowledge to use
The extra features require better hardware despite your use of them or not
Details of features can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X
Some brand statistics: In terms of recent sales, the top 3 manufacturers are HP, Dell, and Acer (Gateway). Apple is #4 in USA.
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/24/mac-q1-2008-market-share-3-26-percent-worldwide-6-26-percent-in-the-us.aspx
Pretty good deal on a powerful laptop: $900 - Gateway M-6851 NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo T5550(1.83GHz) 15.4" Wide XGA 4GB Memory DDR2 667 250GB HDD 5400rpm Dual layer DVD Burner ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600(512MB GDDR3 Dedicated Memory)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101154
Pretty good deals on mid to powerful Tablet PC�s: $700 - Gateway C-141X / $1100 - Gateway C142XL
http://www.gateway.com/systems/series/529597319.php?mtr=DCYAONANC&sg=hm&ph1=8667187749
1) Video card
2) Memory
3) CPU
http://www.pugetsystems.com/gaming.php
For Vista, look at the MS requirements�and double it at least and make sure it's certified. Triple if you can afford�then Vista should rock your socks. If you learn how to use it, Vista features and technology blows XP away�when it works. ;) You want it to last so get 64-bit Vista Home Premium or Ultimate. It�s mega-fast with 64-bit apps as well as lets you upgrade > 4GB TOTAL RAM (system RAM + graphics card + other devices). 64-bit also requires �MS approved� (a.k.a. digitally signed) drivers so this �might� help with hardware compatibility, etc. This is MS�s way of trying to get everyone to �move on� if they are able to.
But if you have old programs, they might not work (esp. with 64-bit version). Google �Vista compatibility list�. Knowing a bit about computers helps getting the old problematic ones to work (Internet has a lot of solutions that smart people share).
Ultimate is the best but if you don�t think you need anything that fancy, Home Premium is good too. Get a good video card if you want Aero graphics (at least 256MB 128-bit in the newer cards)� better if you can afford. Vista technology distributes more graphics processing to the video card and relieves the CPU for other things. Therefore, a good video card will make Vista work better.
Vista uses extra RAM to store commonly used files in a new activity known as �disk caching�. The computer uses artificial intelligence to determine which files will be used most and copies it to RAM (where it is much faster than accessing your hard disk). This includes components of the programs you use on a regular basis. When you need more RAM for programs you launch, etc. the computer purges the �least likely used� files from RAM to make room for the new program. That�s why if you look at the performance monitor, Vista always has near zero �free� RAM. So in theory, the more RAM (for disk cache) you have, the faster your computer will operate. This can also be augmented (to a lesser effect) with a flash drive/card with a technology called ReadyBoost. Just stick it in and select �Speed up my system� and leave it there.
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2917&p=6
Vista Home Premium and Ultimate has Windows Media Center, where with a TV card/USB adapter (if not integrated) of the type that fits your TV/Cable, acts similar to TiVo. You can play your videos, schedule recordings, etc. You can get a wireless keyboard / mouse or gyro-mouse and it will be sort of like remote control. If you do this, get a big Hard Disk.
MS Office productivity software works best on Windows. The Mac version is really nerfed and doesn�t have new features like Office Ribbon interface, Mini Toolbars, and Live Preview.
Vista supports touch-screens and voice recognition if you�re into note-taking and dictation. A good program to use with this is OneNote, which is included in some Office editions.
Deals of America and Tech Bargains catch good deals on HP and Dell�s and sometimes you can get like $500 off! XPBargains has deals and coupons on Tablet PC�s!
�
Unless you are an artist, most Universities (and programs) as well as the rest of the world use Windows. WinMacs are popular but for the price, Macs don�t run Windows as well as other brands, but sometimes it doesn't really matter that much to most users. In addition some just want it for fashion and like them to match their iPods.
Here are some statistics to put it into perspective.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/
Note that these �internet traffic statistics� actually miss a lot of Windows PC usage because many are used for work and do not surf the internet much (if at all). Thus the Windows PC�s out there may be even MORE than the representation on the charts!
Macs are durable because many have an accelerometer in there that can "increase the chance" of saving your hard drive when you drop it. Like those used in airbags. The power cord is also magnetically attached so it reduces the chance that you yank it off the table.
OSXMacs can exclusively install Final Cut Pro (which is good for media work). Adobe Creative Suite is also good and available for Windows but works better on OSX. The Windows version actually looks like an OSX port. Many OSX users are artists historically. Emotion workers are generally not as good with computers as logic workers so OSX is good for them. Because OSX is less complicated and harder to mess up, a lot of computer newbies also use Macs and that�s why you see a lot of �Get a Mac! They are so awesome!� without any technical explanation to back up that opinion. ;)
Mac Pros:
OSX stability
OSX is easy to use
Dual-bootable to Windows
More durable than many brands
Trendy
Mac Cons:
Not as much peripheral support
Not as much software support
Windows doesn�t run as well
Expensive
Minority
Windows PC Pros:
More customizable
More choices
More styles
Cheap hardware
Vista has best gaming capability (Direct3D 10)
Windows PC Cons:
Less stable (unless you are an IT pro)
Many are relatively not as fashionable
Not as user-friendly
Some extra features in Windows requires advanced knowledge to use
The extra features require better hardware despite your use of them or not
Details of features can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X
Some brand statistics: In terms of recent sales, the top 3 manufacturers are HP, Dell, and Acer (Gateway). Apple is #4 in USA.
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/24/mac-q1-2008-market-share-3-26-percent-worldwide-6-26-percent-in-the-us.aspx
Pretty good deal on a powerful laptop: $900 - Gateway M-6851 NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo T5550(1.83GHz) 15.4" Wide XGA 4GB Memory DDR2 667 250GB HDD 5400rpm Dual layer DVD Burner ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600(512MB GDDR3 Dedicated Memory)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101154
Pretty good deals on mid to powerful Tablet PC�s: $700 - Gateway C-141X / $1100 - Gateway C142XL
http://www.gateway.com/systems/series/529597319.php?mtr=DCYAONANC&sg=hm&ph1=8667187749
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