Q. I'm not asking for a monster gaming computer that would cost around $3000. I'm talking about a suitable one that can get atleast 45 fps on first person shooters with max graphics. I've seen some good ones for $600, but I'm willing to spend $1000 - $1500.
A. When doing perfect shopping, using Newegg for Avatar, CyberpowerPC, iBuypower brands and willing to change out the power supply, the savings versus build your own is often very small, especially for the ones they cut in price because of customer dissatisfaction about what they bought.
In building your own, I believe it is best to use the addage, plan twice and cut once. It should take a lot more time to figure out what to get, then the mechanical processes of ordering and assembling and install and test. You should be willing to learn about each component available, and that also allows future upgrade and repair and issue resolving to be much easier, and avoiding those future potentials.
You have the ability to decide your goals.
- Highest gaming performance per dollar spent
- Aiming performance towards particular games and function needs. Some need strong CPUs and Crysis-3 seems to use hyperthreading and all the cores(even 8 core) where most other use only 4 cores or less. Video editing takes a strong CPU+RAM and a solid state drive. Internet speed takes an SSD to improve it by the cache storage.
- Quality, stability, reliability
- Upgradability - ease of upgrade - (It costs more for a proper 2 PCIe x 16 motherboard and better power supply than you need up-front and the better air flow of a good case, but it allows a simple add of a second graphics card in crossfire/SLI). CPU sets the motherboard options, setting up the CPU upgrade options.
- Appearance, aesthetics inside and out
You need to hone down exactly what you want to spend within about $50, and if you want more help from hardware guys like me, you will have to name particular games more than a category. Are you ONLY interested in first person shooter games, or might you expand to others.
General use cpu benchmarking:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
Gaming CPU hierarchy:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
Graphics scores of GPUs
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
Comparing GPUs
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=647
http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1544&gid2=930&compare=geforce-gtx-660-ti-sli-vs-radeon-hd-7870-gigabyte-oc-edition
And, the very important shopping and compatibility:
http://pcpartpicker.com/
Graphics card power supply auxiliary connectors and a minimum wattage of high quality PSU
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
Understanding power supply selection basics, which is the least focused and one of the most important choices:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aigzi8eFQTFGu0SOGArME8vty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20130607111644AAfBajN
Pre-built PCs often use the cheapest power supplies and motherboards, and your advantage in building your own is choosing better parts that won't cause issues.
You can get a great gaming PC probably about GTX 770 and intel core i5 overclocked with a good motherboard and SSD towards the top end of your price that would be a tier one gaming pc with ultra play. The monitor/display is very key also. Is that included in your price, and keyboard and mouse and speakers, headset, etc. You need to list what is included.
Parts compatibility and optimizing is key. In PCPARTPICKER you can share a link to a part list and ask for improvements with a price in mind. They have sample builds, so I'll skip that minor task here for now. I preferred to give you the meat of the process. Watch youtube videos about the construction and take digital photos of an inside of an existing pc to be able to duplicate it.
Adding: Are you near a Microcenter for their in-store specials?
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx
In building your own, I believe it is best to use the addage, plan twice and cut once. It should take a lot more time to figure out what to get, then the mechanical processes of ordering and assembling and install and test. You should be willing to learn about each component available, and that also allows future upgrade and repair and issue resolving to be much easier, and avoiding those future potentials.
You have the ability to decide your goals.
- Highest gaming performance per dollar spent
- Aiming performance towards particular games and function needs. Some need strong CPUs and Crysis-3 seems to use hyperthreading and all the cores(even 8 core) where most other use only 4 cores or less. Video editing takes a strong CPU+RAM and a solid state drive. Internet speed takes an SSD to improve it by the cache storage.
- Quality, stability, reliability
- Upgradability - ease of upgrade - (It costs more for a proper 2 PCIe x 16 motherboard and better power supply than you need up-front and the better air flow of a good case, but it allows a simple add of a second graphics card in crossfire/SLI). CPU sets the motherboard options, setting up the CPU upgrade options.
- Appearance, aesthetics inside and out
You need to hone down exactly what you want to spend within about $50, and if you want more help from hardware guys like me, you will have to name particular games more than a category. Are you ONLY interested in first person shooter games, or might you expand to others.
General use cpu benchmarking:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
Gaming CPU hierarchy:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
Graphics scores of GPUs
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
Comparing GPUs
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=647
http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1544&gid2=930&compare=geforce-gtx-660-ti-sli-vs-radeon-hd-7870-gigabyte-oc-edition
And, the very important shopping and compatibility:
http://pcpartpicker.com/
Graphics card power supply auxiliary connectors and a minimum wattage of high quality PSU
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
Understanding power supply selection basics, which is the least focused and one of the most important choices:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aigzi8eFQTFGu0SOGArME8vty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20130607111644AAfBajN
Pre-built PCs often use the cheapest power supplies and motherboards, and your advantage in building your own is choosing better parts that won't cause issues.
You can get a great gaming PC probably about GTX 770 and intel core i5 overclocked with a good motherboard and SSD towards the top end of your price that would be a tier one gaming pc with ultra play. The monitor/display is very key also. Is that included in your price, and keyboard and mouse and speakers, headset, etc. You need to list what is included.
Parts compatibility and optimizing is key. In PCPARTPICKER you can share a link to a part list and ask for improvements with a price in mind. They have sample builds, so I'll skip that minor task here for now. I preferred to give you the meat of the process. Watch youtube videos about the construction and take digital photos of an inside of an existing pc to be able to duplicate it.
Adding: Are you near a Microcenter for their in-store specials?
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx
What parts should i use to make a good gaming computer?
Q. I just would like some help picking out the components, ie. cases processors, ram, graphics cards, power supply, cooling components, disc drives, hard drives, and a video card with hdmi output, and a wireless card. Feel free to add anything...my budget is about 1500 dollars.
A. First of all don't even think about jumping into SLI or Crossfire without doing your research. A gaming machine designed just for gaming should be built around just that. Spend your cash on the graphics cards and work your budget for everything else around that. A fresh Nvidia GTX 295 or ATI Radeon HD 5870 is gonna cost you a little under 500$ still leaving a very healthy 1000$ budget for your other parts. Next order of business would be the power supply, a GTX 295 or ATI 5870 will draw stupidly huge amounts of electricity at full tilt so consider dropping at least 100$ on a quality 750watt+ power supply like a silencer quad or a Corsair TX series.
Next you want to consider your processor and motherboard, you do not need a Core i7 EE for gaming it just isn't necessary in fact you don't even need a quad which will likely chew your budget up like beef jerky, most games do not symmetrically thread across more than 2 cores so a 300$ processor isn't a necessity and the same goes for the board that you plug it into. I bought a Asus P5QL pro from tiger for less than 130$ and it is a incredibly feature rich board for the low cost mated with a Core 2 e7400 or e8400 will yield great results on the cheap. My last build I used a NZXT Apollo which can be had for less than 80$, it is easily the superior case to even my much bigger and more expensive full tower case.
RAM is a tough decision on your part. You can keep this fairly cheap by picking RAM that isn't rated for higher clocks than what it will run under normal circumstances by default will likely net you great savings however it will require to restrict RAM speeds and timings in any overclocking endeavor for an informed customer that is like a death sentence. A e7400 will overclock over 400Mhz with a stock cooler and still stay below 60C which is a pretty noteworthy performance boost, specially for free. Crucial and OCZ make a few kits that aren't insanely expensive and overclock quite nicely.
Next you want to consider your processor and motherboard, you do not need a Core i7 EE for gaming it just isn't necessary in fact you don't even need a quad which will likely chew your budget up like beef jerky, most games do not symmetrically thread across more than 2 cores so a 300$ processor isn't a necessity and the same goes for the board that you plug it into. I bought a Asus P5QL pro from tiger for less than 130$ and it is a incredibly feature rich board for the low cost mated with a Core 2 e7400 or e8400 will yield great results on the cheap. My last build I used a NZXT Apollo which can be had for less than 80$, it is easily the superior case to even my much bigger and more expensive full tower case.
RAM is a tough decision on your part. You can keep this fairly cheap by picking RAM that isn't rated for higher clocks than what it will run under normal circumstances by default will likely net you great savings however it will require to restrict RAM speeds and timings in any overclocking endeavor for an informed customer that is like a death sentence. A e7400 will overclock over 400Mhz with a stock cooler and still stay below 60C which is a pretty noteworthy performance boost, specially for free. Crucial and OCZ make a few kits that aren't insanely expensive and overclock quite nicely.
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