Q. I am looking for a good gaming computer but don't really have a thousand dollars to spend on it. I think that my max price would be from 300-500. Does anyone know any good ones? And I would like for it to be strong enough to play arma 2 and project reality. Thanks.
A. To be honest with your price range your options are limited. There is a budget build here: http://www.omfgnetwork.com/2012/omfg-network-amd-copper-build-2/ But it does not include the monitor, mouse, ect. But that all depends on if you want to build your own computer. Also Alien Ware tends to be more expensive than building it yourself, but you will not have to assemble it yourself.
How much have computers improved? 2009 - 2012?
Q. i bought my computer in 2009 for 1200$
If i buy a new computer for the same price now... how much better would it be?
so what i' actually asking is how much has technology changed since 2009?
*i used everest to find my specs so don't hate...*
Computer
Operating SystemWindows 7 Ultimate
OS Service Pack-
DirectX4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name*******************-PC
User Name*******************
Motherboard
CPU TypeIntel Pentium III Xeon, 3179 MHz
Motherboard NameUnknown
Motherboard ChipsetUnknown
System Memory4096 MB
BIOS TypeUnknown
Communication PortCommunications Port (COM1)
Display
Video AdapterNVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
Video AdapterNVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
MonitorGeneric PnP Monitor [NoDB] (003MAKRDC637)
Multimedia
Audio AdapterHigh Definition Audio Controller [NoDB]
Storage
IDE ControllerIntel(R) ICH10 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 3A26
IDE ControllerIntel(R) ICH10 Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 3A20
SCSI/RAID ControllerANSHYZXN IDE Controller
SCSI/RAID ControllerGeneric Marvell 61xx RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID ControllerMicrosoft iSCSI Initiator
Floppy DriveFloppy disk drive
Disk DriveHitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device (465 GB, IDE)
Disk DriveWD My Book 3.0 1123 USB Device (1863 GB, USB)
Optical DrivePQNELQ 3CHM745U SCSI CdRom Device
Optical DrivePQNELQ 3CHM745U SCSI CdRom Device
Optical DriveTSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C ATA Device
SMART Hard Disks StatusOK
Partitions
C: (NTFS)476837 MB (335413 MB free)
G: (NTFS)1907725 MB (952923 MB free)
Total Size2328.7 GB (1258.1 GB free)
Input
KeyboardHID Keyboard Device
MouseLogitech HID-compliant G700 Gaming Mouse
Network
Network AdapterRealtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (***.***.*.***)
If i buy a new computer for the same price now... how much better would it be?
so what i' actually asking is how much has technology changed since 2009?
*i used everest to find my specs so don't hate...*
Computer
Operating SystemWindows 7 Ultimate
OS Service Pack-
DirectX4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name*******************-PC
User Name*******************
Motherboard
CPU TypeIntel Pentium III Xeon, 3179 MHz
Motherboard NameUnknown
Motherboard ChipsetUnknown
System Memory4096 MB
BIOS TypeUnknown
Communication PortCommunications Port (COM1)
Display
Video AdapterNVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
Video AdapterNVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
MonitorGeneric PnP Monitor [NoDB] (003MAKRDC637)
Multimedia
Audio AdapterHigh Definition Audio Controller [NoDB]
Storage
IDE ControllerIntel(R) ICH10 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 3A26
IDE ControllerIntel(R) ICH10 Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 3A20
SCSI/RAID ControllerANSHYZXN IDE Controller
SCSI/RAID ControllerGeneric Marvell 61xx RAID Controller
SCSI/RAID ControllerMicrosoft iSCSI Initiator
Floppy DriveFloppy disk drive
Disk DriveHitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device (465 GB, IDE)
Disk DriveWD My Book 3.0 1123 USB Device (1863 GB, USB)
Optical DrivePQNELQ 3CHM745U SCSI CdRom Device
Optical DrivePQNELQ 3CHM745U SCSI CdRom Device
Optical DriveTSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C ATA Device
SMART Hard Disks StatusOK
Partitions
C: (NTFS)476837 MB (335413 MB free)
G: (NTFS)1907725 MB (952923 MB free)
Total Size2328.7 GB (1258.1 GB free)
Input
KeyboardHID Keyboard Device
MouseLogitech HID-compliant G700 Gaming Mouse
Network
Network AdapterRealtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (***.***.*.***)
A. So there are essentially two questions rolled into one here. The one is "what would $1200 buy me today", and the other would be "how does my computer stack up to a new one".
Well.
If one looks directly at Moore's Law, then one can say that relatively speaking, your computer is about one-fourth the computer it used to be. Every 18 months, 36 months = 3 years = (1/2)^2. However, evaluating that doesn't take into account the different speeds at which the various technology areas develop.
One can also use the simple rule of thumb that a desktop computer is mostly obsolete (in the sense that it isn't cutting edge any more, but may still be usable) after five years. In that case, your computer is about a third of the computer it used to be.
The flooding in Thailand last year has still raised hard drive prices. A computer that is comparable to yours right now would be paying more for the hard disk space you have than for, say, processors and GPU performance.
There's also depreciation in the sense that $1200 in 2009 was worth more than $1200 is today.
Here's a sample computer. All prices are from Newegg. It won't be exactly as yours, obviously, mostly because the Z68 chipset allows the Smart boost from an SSD (not included), but it should outperform or match your rig quite handily. The PSU has plenty of headroom, too.
I've included a computer case and a license for the OS as well, but I have not included a monitor, keyboard, and so on.
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, $190
Case: Antec Three Hundred, $60
PSU: Corsair HX750, $150
Motherboard + CPU: i5-2500k + GA-Z58MA mATX, $320
Memory: 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair Vengeance, $99
Optical drive: ASUS DVD burner, $22
GPU: ASUS ENGTX560 GeForce GTX 560, $200
HDD: WD Black 1.5 TB SATA3, $160
= $1201
So. Let's look at numbers.
Your computer has 4 GB system memory. This computer has 16 GB, and is likely faster than what you have.
You seem to be running a SLI setup for the GTS 250. One single GTS 250 benches at 1074. One single 560 (no TI) benches at 2724. So even with 100% increase (and a SLI setup is usually closer to 50% than 100% increase), one single 560 still outperforms two GTS 250s by 600 points or so.
One Xeon clocked at 3179 MHz... well, that depends on what Xeon it is. You didn't include that, but the Bloomfield series are LGA 1366, and was released at the end of the year in 2009. So it's likely a W3550 (though that one was $562 at release, so you may have a cheaper one). The W3550 benches at 5822. The i5 2500k benches at 6743, so it's still faster.
The disk setup should also be faster than your setup, with or without RAID - simply because SATA 3. Yes, that's the reason.
Well.
If one looks directly at Moore's Law, then one can say that relatively speaking, your computer is about one-fourth the computer it used to be. Every 18 months, 36 months = 3 years = (1/2)^2. However, evaluating that doesn't take into account the different speeds at which the various technology areas develop.
One can also use the simple rule of thumb that a desktop computer is mostly obsolete (in the sense that it isn't cutting edge any more, but may still be usable) after five years. In that case, your computer is about a third of the computer it used to be.
The flooding in Thailand last year has still raised hard drive prices. A computer that is comparable to yours right now would be paying more for the hard disk space you have than for, say, processors and GPU performance.
There's also depreciation in the sense that $1200 in 2009 was worth more than $1200 is today.
Here's a sample computer. All prices are from Newegg. It won't be exactly as yours, obviously, mostly because the Z68 chipset allows the Smart boost from an SSD (not included), but it should outperform or match your rig quite handily. The PSU has plenty of headroom, too.
I've included a computer case and a license for the OS as well, but I have not included a monitor, keyboard, and so on.
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, $190
Case: Antec Three Hundred, $60
PSU: Corsair HX750, $150
Motherboard + CPU: i5-2500k + GA-Z58MA mATX, $320
Memory: 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair Vengeance, $99
Optical drive: ASUS DVD burner, $22
GPU: ASUS ENGTX560 GeForce GTX 560, $200
HDD: WD Black 1.5 TB SATA3, $160
= $1201
So. Let's look at numbers.
Your computer has 4 GB system memory. This computer has 16 GB, and is likely faster than what you have.
You seem to be running a SLI setup for the GTS 250. One single GTS 250 benches at 1074. One single 560 (no TI) benches at 2724. So even with 100% increase (and a SLI setup is usually closer to 50% than 100% increase), one single 560 still outperforms two GTS 250s by 600 points or so.
One Xeon clocked at 3179 MHz... well, that depends on what Xeon it is. You didn't include that, but the Bloomfield series are LGA 1366, and was released at the end of the year in 2009. So it's likely a W3550 (though that one was $562 at release, so you may have a cheaper one). The W3550 benches at 5822. The i5 2500k benches at 6743, so it's still faster.
The disk setup should also be faster than your setup, with or without RAID - simply because SATA 3. Yes, that's the reason.
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